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VIRGINIA
CIVIL WAR RELICS
Civil War Cartridge Box
Plates
This page last updated February 03, 2012
EMAIL Phone: 804-873-5462
virginiarelics@comcast.net
Plez Bagby
PO Box 6425
Charlottesville, VA 22906
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PC3961
US Cartridge Box Plate
This US cartridge box plate is from the collection of a well known and
highly respected digger, collector, and author of "Plates and Buckles of the
American Military 1795 - 1874". The brass face of the plate shows the
long tall letters "US" on a very pleasing brown patina. The brass has
no cracks, breaks, or repairs. It does, however, have an unusual and
interesting bend above the "U". While I don't know exactly what caused
this substantial bend, one might conclude that it was struck by something
long, long ago given the consistency of the patina in this area and the
curvature of the bend. This bend is definitely not a digger's digging
tool mistake. The lead is also still complete behind the bend as well
as the rest of the rear of the plate. Only one hook remains but it is
solid and straight up. This is clearly an early excavated plate that
is in very good condition. The labels on the rear indicate that it was
recovered from the Hanover Junction / North Anna, VA. area. This plate
will make an excellent addition to any excavated Civil War plate or general
relic collection. Approx. 55 x 85 mm. $150.00
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PC4041
V.M.I. Cartridge Box Plate - 1/3 Portion Excavated
This Virginia Military
Institute cartridge box plate is the union of approximately 1/3 original
excavated plate and 2/3 reproduction plate. The original portion is
the letter "I", including both periods to either side and a portion of the
right side of the "M". There are two examples of VMI box
plates pictured in Steve Mullinax's book "Confederate
Belt Buckles and Plates", 1st edition, on page 216 (also in
"Expanded Edition" of same book on page
240), one with periods in-between the letters and one without periods.
The plate with periods and an iron back, such as this 1/3 portion, is is
undoubtedly rarer than the lead filled VMI (no periods) cartridge box plate
with only 3 other known examples. Now there are 3 1/3 known examples!
The original portion was recovered in the early 1980's by a gentleman while working in his garden located in
Brownsburg, VA. Brownsburg is situated just north of Lexington , VA,
where VMI is located. Brownsburg was on the back road to Staunton, VA and
was used extensively by the VMI cadets for long marches during training
during the 1840s and 50s, the period this plate was used. It is this same
route used by a portion of Gen. Hunter's army as it marched toward Lexington
intent on destroying the VMI shortly after the CS victory at New Market. In May of 1864, Lt. Col. Scott Shipp,
(age 24) VMI Commandant of Cadets, marched his 257 cadets (ages15-26) 81
miles in four days, from Lexington to New Market, VA to meet up with General Breckinridge's
Confederate force. On May 15 the
Battle of New
Market took place leaving 48 cadets wounded and 10 dead. This
was, however, a Confederate victory. With the exception of Civil
War era VMI buttons, other VMI Civil War artifacts from the war, are nearly
impossible to recover or even find available for collecting. Finding
even a portion of a VMI plate is considered "a find of a lifetime", finding
a complete example is hitting a grand slam in the world series. This
rare piece of VMI Keydet Civil War history will be an excellent addition to
any Civil War plate or VMI collection. Approx. 42 x
71 mm. $635.00
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PC3877
US Cartridge Box Plate
This US cartridge box plate is in very good condition and is complete.
Written on the back of this plate, presumably by the digger, is:
"FOUND MARCH OF 1973 IN THE
WILDERNESS"
and "No. 1" most likely indicating either his first box plate recovery or
his first from the Wilderness. The brass face of this plate,
with its very pleasing even chocolate brown patina, has the big bold letters
"US". The rear has a nearly complete compliment of solder with some
flaking at the edges. Both iron attachment loops are present, complete
and straight up. This plate has no cracks, breaks, bends, or
repairs. $225.00
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PC1239
Cartridge Box Plate Marked "W H Smith
Brooklyn"
This excavated US cartridge box plate is in excellent condition and has its
manufacture's mark of "W H SMITH BROOKLYN". Digging a US cartridge box
plate is difficult enough these days but finding one with a manufacturer's
stamp is ten times harder. This plate was recovered in Caroline
County, VA in the area of the battle of
North Anna.
The face of the plate shows the big bold letters "US" which are typical of
Smith's plates. The brass has front has aged into a very pleasant
green-brown patina and is basically flawless. The upper edge of the
middle section of the "S" shows a slight tiny bit of original brass.
The rear has full lead and both iron attachment loops which are slightly
rusty but solid, complete, and straight up. The "W H SMITH BROOKLYN"
mark, which is high lighted with baby powder, shows every letter clearly
with the exception of the "K". The plate has no cracks, breaks, bends
or repairs and will make an excellent addition to any Civil War plate or
general excavated relic collection. Approx. 55 x 87 mm.
$325.00
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PC3766
US Cartridge Box Plate
This excavated US cartridge box plate
is complete and in good condition. Its
brass face has an absolutely stunning chocolate brown patina showing well
defined letters "US". The rim at the ten o'clock position to
the left of the "U" is slightly curled upwards. The rear has
full solder and both hooks are present and bent. This plate shows wear
and clearly got some use! This very handsome boxplate has no cracks,
breaks, repairs, or other major bends and will make a
nice addition to any excavated Civil War relic collection. Approx. 54
x 85
mm. $185.00
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PC2675
US Cartridge Box Plate
This excavated US cartridge box plate is an interesting relic. The
plate is complete with both of its iron attachment hooks still in place and
upright, but it is missing most of its solder fill. I do not believe
this is a case of the solder being melted out as there is no other
indications of it being heated or in a fire. I thought that the
missing solder may be a result of the use of a combination of substandard
solder and moist soil that it may have rested in for decades causing the
solder to rot away. This, however, would not explain why the iron
hooks didn't rot away as well since these are usually the first to go in
moist soil. We may never know the answer to this mystery. The
brass face appears to have a brown patina still covered by a light covering
of the soil in which it was recovered. The only flaw I can find (with
the exception of missing solder) is a hairline crack at the rim at the end
with the "S". There are no bends, repairs or other cracks. This
plate will make an very nice excavated display piece in any collection.
56 x 88 mm. $135.00
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